Assembly to rule on pub’s future as developers appeal
Katie Norman, South Wales Echo
DEVELOPERS have appealed against the rejection of controversial plans to build flats and houses on the site of a popular pub.
Proposals to build on the site of the Pantmawr Inn, Pantmawr, Cardiff, were rejected by Cardiff council’s planning committee after a lengthy residents’ campaign against the idea.
But Asbri Planning, which represents developer Charles Church and landowner Mitchells and Butlers, has appealed to the National Assembly.
The Pantmawr Action Group (PAG), which formed to try to save the pub, has said it will continue its campaign against the plans.
The Assembly’s planning inspectorate, based at Cathays Park, Cardiff, will now have 30 weeks to look at the appeal.
Asbri Planning has asked the inspectorate to consider the application on written representation alone, without a public inquiry.
But a public inquiry could be held if the Assembly receives enough demands for such action from the public.
Ward councillor Jayne Cowan said she fully supported PAG and believed a public inquiry would be in their interests.
“It would mean there would be a site meeting and the campaigners could show the full scale of the impact, as they have done previously,” she said.
A public meeting to discuss the situation has been organised at All Saints Church Hall, Rhiwbina, Cardiff, at 7pm on Monday, May 26.
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Monday, May 19, 2008
Tuesday, April 8, 2008
Echo reports site visit! Balloons lift protesters’ pub demo to a new level!
Story in today's Echo, by Laura Wright.
"A PROTEST group made sure that a council planning committee had plenty to see when they made a site visit to a threatened pub.
Plans have gone before Cardiff council to replace the Pantmawr Inn, in Pantmawr, Cardiff, with flats. But residents have fought the plans from the outset and even set up a naked protest to make sure they were noticed.
This time round, up to 300 people turned up at the pub for the planning committee site visit to show their objections with visual aids yesterday.
About 40 helium balloons demonstrated the height and area of the flats and several signs around the area pointed towards the community’s protest.
Rachel Thomas, of the Pantmawr Action Group, said: “The balloons were very useful because it’s hard to imagine how tall a building is going to be and its effect on the area. Our signs showed how close the flats would be to houses and that the pub is used as a community facility.
“Children play on the grass outside the pub and, if that goes, the nearest park is two and a half kilometres away.
“We’re very pleased with the turnout especially with the sleet, hail and rain.”"
"A PROTEST group made sure that a council planning committee had plenty to see when they made a site visit to a threatened pub.
Plans have gone before Cardiff council to replace the Pantmawr Inn, in Pantmawr, Cardiff, with flats. But residents have fought the plans from the outset and even set up a naked protest to make sure they were noticed.
This time round, up to 300 people turned up at the pub for the planning committee site visit to show their objections with visual aids yesterday.
About 40 helium balloons demonstrated the height and area of the flats and several signs around the area pointed towards the community’s protest.
Rachel Thomas, of the Pantmawr Action Group, said: “The balloons were very useful because it’s hard to imagine how tall a building is going to be and its effect on the area. Our signs showed how close the flats would be to houses and that the pub is used as a community facility.
“Children play on the grass outside the pub and, if that goes, the nearest park is two and a half kilometres away.
“We’re very pleased with the turnout especially with the sleet, hail and rain.”"
Thursday, March 27, 2008
PAG turn out in force at the Planning Committee
After the Pantmawr Action Group turned out in force at Cardiff's City Hall, the Council's Planning Committee have decided to have a site visit before making a decision on the Planning Application.
The site visit will take place on 7th April at 4.30pm.


The site visit will take place on 7th April at 4.30pm.
PAG hits the headlines again!
Help us to keep our community
HOW daft can council officers be? Planning policy suggests that communities should be encouraged and amenities provided. Yet our council is about to deprive more than 1,000 Pantmawr residents of their amenity by allowing a development of more houses and flats and therefore more residents on the site of the Pantmawr Inn. We have a thriving community spirit with many activities centred on the pub and its environs, but if it is built over, we will have nowhere to go, our community spirit will be lost.
Surely this goes against local authority and Government guidelines and initiatives? We have always been a neglected part of north Cardiff. The roads are narrow and in a terrible state.
We have problems with drains and water pressure, bus services are infrequent and we have no other amenities, but what makes it worthwhile is knowing and meeting lots of friendly people. How will this be possible without a venue, our village pub?
We have sent in a petition with more than 1,000 signatures and more than 100 objection letters to show the many problems with this development, all of which seem to have been ignored.
Also, do we really need more flats in Cardiff?
Come on councillors, don't take our community centre away from us, throw this outrageous, carbuncle of a development out and help us to keep our community together.
HOW daft can council officers be? Planning policy suggests that communities should be encouraged and amenities provided. Yet our council is about to deprive more than 1,000 Pantmawr residents of their amenity by allowing a development of more houses and flats and therefore more residents on the site of the Pantmawr Inn. We have a thriving community spirit with many activities centred on the pub and its environs, but if it is built over, we will have nowhere to go, our community spirit will be lost.
Surely this goes against local authority and Government guidelines and initiatives? We have always been a neglected part of north Cardiff. The roads are narrow and in a terrible state.
We have problems with drains and water pressure, bus services are infrequent and we have no other amenities, but what makes it worthwhile is knowing and meeting lots of friendly people. How will this be possible without a venue, our village pub?
We have sent in a petition with more than 1,000 signatures and more than 100 objection letters to show the many problems with this development, all of which seem to have been ignored.
Also, do we really need more flats in Cardiff?
Come on councillors, don't take our community centre away from us, throw this outrageous, carbuncle of a development out and help us to keep our community together.
Pantmawr resident

Thursday, February 21, 2008
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
That's one way to get more exposure ladies!
Feb 20 2008 by Katie Norman, South Wales Echo
MOVE over Calendar Girls.
A group of ladies campaigning to save Cardiff’s Pantmawr Inn pub plan to expose their campaign on national television by stripping naked on Friday’s Al Murray show.
The protesters have already posed nude outside the Tyla Teg pub, using a 15ft campaign banner to shield their modesty.
They have now been filmed alongside former newspaper editor Piers Morgan, Coronation Street actress Kim Ryder and Michael Winner as guests for the ITV show, hosted by comedian Al Murray as his character the Pub Landlord.
The naked protesters are members of the Pantmawr Action Group, which has been campaigning against plans to stop developers demolishing the pub and building flats in its place.
Sue Rawlinson, 54, an office administrator, of Cae’r Wenallt, Pantmawr, said she was not fazed by the prospect of stripping on national television.
“We will be getting good exposure in more ways than one,” she said.
“I’m not nervous. Why should we be nervous when the banner hides everything?
“It will be an experience for us all, I think.
“We’re expecting Al to take the Mickey out of us something rotten but we would do anything for our pub so it will be worth it.”
Sue’s daughter Sian-Elin wrote to the show to suggest they feature the Pantmawr Inn.
After viewing the naked protest pictures on the group’s website, programme makers invited them to London.
The television company whisked the six ladies and action group chairman Hugh Payne to the television studios for filming yesterday and put them up in a London hotel afterwards.
To celebrate, the Pantmawr Inn will be screening the Al Murray show and have its own live music in the pub on Friday.
Mr Payne hoped the TV appearance might bring the group’s fight to save the pub to a wider audience.
He said: “I don’t think any residents in Pantmawr have missed the campaign because we’ve knocked on every door and 75 per cent of them have our posters.
“But hopefully this will tell people from further afield that the pub is still open and doing very well.”
Pub owners Mitchell and Butler decided to sell the premises because of a decline in trade.
Developer Charles Church wants to build a block of 23 flats and 11 houses on the site. Cardiff council is likely to consider the plans at a planning meeting on March 19.
For campaign details visit www.savepantmawr.org
katie.norman@mediawales.co.uk
MOVE over Calendar Girls.
A group of ladies campaigning to save Cardiff’s Pantmawr Inn pub plan to expose their campaign on national television by stripping naked on Friday’s Al Murray show.
The protesters have already posed nude outside the Tyla Teg pub, using a 15ft campaign banner to shield their modesty.
They have now been filmed alongside former newspaper editor Piers Morgan, Coronation Street actress Kim Ryder and Michael Winner as guests for the ITV show, hosted by comedian Al Murray as his character the Pub Landlord.
The naked protesters are members of the Pantmawr Action Group, which has been campaigning against plans to stop developers demolishing the pub and building flats in its place.
Sue Rawlinson, 54, an office administrator, of Cae’r Wenallt, Pantmawr, said she was not fazed by the prospect of stripping on national television.
“We will be getting good exposure in more ways than one,” she said.
“I’m not nervous. Why should we be nervous when the banner hides everything?
“It will be an experience for us all, I think.
“We’re expecting Al to take the Mickey out of us something rotten but we would do anything for our pub so it will be worth it.”
Sue’s daughter Sian-Elin wrote to the show to suggest they feature the Pantmawr Inn.
After viewing the naked protest pictures on the group’s website, programme makers invited them to London.
The television company whisked the six ladies and action group chairman Hugh Payne to the television studios for filming yesterday and put them up in a London hotel afterwards.
To celebrate, the Pantmawr Inn will be screening the Al Murray show and have its own live music in the pub on Friday.
Mr Payne hoped the TV appearance might bring the group’s fight to save the pub to a wider audience.
He said: “I don’t think any residents in Pantmawr have missed the campaign because we’ve knocked on every door and 75 per cent of them have our posters.
“But hopefully this will tell people from further afield that the pub is still open and doing very well.”
Pub owners Mitchell and Butler decided to sell the premises because of a decline in trade.
Developer Charles Church wants to build a block of 23 flats and 11 houses on the site. Cardiff council is likely to consider the plans at a planning meeting on March 19.
For campaign details visit www.savepantmawr.org
katie.norman@mediawales.co.uk
Friday, January 11, 2008
In the news...
Pub placards are ‘banned’
Jan 10 2008 by Katie Norman, South Wales Echo
GIANT placards have been banned from highlighting a community’s fight to save its local pub.
Cardiff council has ordered residents to remove massive banners objecting to the proposed demolition of the Pantmawr Inn, in Pantmawr, Cardiff, from their properties.
Developer Charles Church wants to build a block of 23 flats and 11 houses on the site but locals are against the proposal.
Protest advertisements at least four metres long had been sited near the pub but council officers ordered their removal after receiving complaints.
They say the huge banners need planning permission.
Hugh Payne, who is chairman of the Pantmawr Action Group, said: “The banners may be going up again. Not officially, but I can’t stop people if they’re going to put them in their gardens.”
Read the full story on icwales here.
Jan 10 2008 by Katie Norman, South Wales Echo
GIANT placards have been banned from highlighting a community’s fight to save its local pub.
Cardiff council has ordered residents to remove massive banners objecting to the proposed demolition of the Pantmawr Inn, in Pantmawr, Cardiff, from their properties.
Developer Charles Church wants to build a block of 23 flats and 11 houses on the site but locals are against the proposal.
Protest advertisements at least four metres long had been sited near the pub but council officers ordered their removal after receiving complaints.
They say the huge banners need planning permission.
Hugh Payne, who is chairman of the Pantmawr Action Group, said: “The banners may be going up again. Not officially, but I can’t stop people if they’re going to put them in their gardens.”
Read the full story on icwales here.
Monday, October 1, 2007
Pantmawr hog roast
Everyone enjoyed the hog roast served by master-chef Mark Pearson and his assistant Sue Rawlinson. There were 45 raffle prizes won by Pantmawr residents and Pantmawr Inn customers. Judith Jones won £50.



Tuesday, September 25, 2007
Letter of objection from Mr Rees aged 84
To: mamorris@cardiff.gov.uk
Cc: arobson@cardiff.gov.uk ; jcowan@cardiff.gov.uk
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:34 PM
Subject: Objection to change of usage and redevelopment of Pantmawr Inn site
Mr. Morris
I am writing to submit a strong objection to the change of usage and redevelopment of Pantmawr Inn site.
When the Pantmawr estate was built in the 1950s, the planners were, by circumstance, ahead of the current environmental thinking. They ensured bus services, local shops (now sadly all gone) and a social amenity in the heritage buildings were provided to meet the needs of the estate residents without the need for car journeys. Global warming is clearly, in the very near future, going to drive us back to this type of more localised amenity planning. In the Pantmawr Inn, chosen as the preferred social amenity by estate residents in the 1950s, you already have the sort of localised amenity that future planning will strive to revive. This is the opportunity for the planning of Cardiff to be environmentally forward thinking and community aware by REJECTING the redevelopment.
There are four main detailed points to consider:
1. Traffic density, narrow and inadequate access roads make the site totally unsuitable for the plans
2. Removal will lead to more traffic as residents are forced to travel to distant alternatives.
3. I am 85 and my friends and I like many other estate residents frequent the Inn on a regular basis, several times a week. It is our ONLY local social amenity, it is the focus of our community (we have no local shops or other facilities left) and it would be a major loss were it to go.
4. It is surprising to me that the building has never been given a heritage designation, the question should be asked why not?
I look forward to common sense prevailing and this totally inappropriate change of usage and planning application being REJECTED.
Yours sincerely
Mr. E. J. Rees
C'aer Wenallt
Pantmawr,
Cc: arobson@cardiff.gov.uk ; jcowan@cardiff.gov.uk
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:34 PM
Subject: Objection to change of usage and redevelopment of Pantmawr Inn site
Mr. Morris
I am writing to submit a strong objection to the change of usage and redevelopment of Pantmawr Inn site.
When the Pantmawr estate was built in the 1950s, the planners were, by circumstance, ahead of the current environmental thinking. They ensured bus services, local shops (now sadly all gone) and a social amenity in the heritage buildings were provided to meet the needs of the estate residents without the need for car journeys. Global warming is clearly, in the very near future, going to drive us back to this type of more localised amenity planning. In the Pantmawr Inn, chosen as the preferred social amenity by estate residents in the 1950s, you already have the sort of localised amenity that future planning will strive to revive. This is the opportunity for the planning of Cardiff to be environmentally forward thinking and community aware by REJECTING the redevelopment.
There are four main detailed points to consider:
1. Traffic density, narrow and inadequate access roads make the site totally unsuitable for the plans
2. Removal will lead to more traffic as residents are forced to travel to distant alternatives.
3. I am 85 and my friends and I like many other estate residents frequent the Inn on a regular basis, several times a week. It is our ONLY local social amenity, it is the focus of our community (we have no local shops or other facilities left) and it would be a major loss were it to go.
4. It is surprising to me that the building has never been given a heritage designation, the question should be asked why not?
I look forward to common sense prevailing and this totally inappropriate change of usage and planning application being REJECTED.
Yours sincerely
Mr. E. J. Rees
C'aer Wenallt
Pantmawr,
Friday, September 14, 2007
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